comma ai Scopie Sunday

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good morning scobie's so I haven't done one of these in a bit I figured I would do one this morning and keep you guys up to date so I'll first off the Maverick uh Devo is the only time you're gonna see me not shilling per my own merch I am shilling for Logan Paul's March so throw out this weird all right all the scope is get in here yeah no we missed you too um so a few things I want to talk about uh what's first okay I promise I promise this this periscope will not all right bro your your band ID that's just get out of my Scott now you're out uh the first thing I want to talk about I do it with Davin the minutes definitely matters yeah um all right so no the first thing I first thing let's talk a little bit about Gio I promise that this whole periscope will not just be me making fun of GM I do promise that but I saw a post on random as opposed to random I'm working on grape and affirm well I'm not shilling for any bitcoins today um Tesla is about to suffer the same fate as Ford and you know this is this is this is just a fascinating like it's so clear to me what journalists don't understand I say it here like Tesla views their car as a computer on wheels if you go back to 2007 smartphones souls there's a Wikipedia page that goes into this list of best-selling mobile phones so if you look here there were actually there was a phone that outsold the iPhone it was called the Nokia n95 and you look at this and if the year is 2007 you don't really know which one is gonna win if what you're looking at is features if you're comparing the n95 to the iPhone based on like features they actually look surprisingly similar so let's let's bring up the Wikipedia page for the iPhone 2g and actually do this so you know if you look at if you look at the CPU if you look at the memory they're really they're really very very similar the n95 has has more memory or more storage similar CPUs but what was the difference right why did the I end up out competing the 95 to the point that Nokia went out of business climate change isn't ruining everything you guys can can you can can somebody tell me like one way in which their life has actually been ruined by climate change um but they're not going off on that uh Tesla is following a car is super Chris is pretty nice super Chris is pretty nice but it's one of these things that doesn't scale test the will scale to to at least probably level three with with with what they have in the cars um Wow you can't believe I said that yeah but so just just like like I really I um no the coughing in china the pollution in china's are a problem yes said climate change' the yeah so that's that's that's that's that's GM but that's not what i'm going to talk about today i'm here to really update you guys on production so we're gonna go into the stockroom i've decided in the interest of transparency to show you numbers so here are a whole lot of phones that were unboxed um this is our first production on this is our production run for the first quarter of the year so just so you can see this is our manufacturing operation here we got all the phones unboxed so these are the bags that ship with the with the eon yeah we're what we're doing it we're doing it uh so there's gonna be some yeah i'm so yeah we're gonna ship out hopefully wednesday let's let's commit to the scope ease if you buy if you've bought an eon it's gonna ship out pandas right now are a little bit delayed what was this a return yeah we have for you got for you yeah we got for eons returned oh wow we got it we got it we got a refurbished those will ship out me we have people we also not have internal stock which will show you guys too we're thinking about maybe adding these things as sk news so this is a this is a space networking adapter and you can use this to get ethernet on your eon a volkswagen giraffe so i think i've talked about this um we are not going to support any other cars besides honda toyota this year yeah everything else will be will be community oh good you got your panda this week good um yeah we're a little we're a little short on pandas um but macro fab macro fabs gonna pull through for us and we're gonna get we're gonna get we're getting ten thousand pandas they're coming in beautiful injection molded cases so if you ordered one it'll still be in the 3d printer case but the new ones are going to be injection molded I'm just saying like my day-to-day there's problems and none of them are causing climate change so no no you can use Ethernet so I'll show you I'll show you another kind of common stock item yeah we are producing great pandas at the office here's another here's another internal item this uses two pandas to connect a computer to an eon for debugging would go that far I mean it's real it's just the effects aren't you know killing me tomorrow there's things that actually might kill me tomorrow and those things are scary like nukes MA iron ship look at these gray panda oh I got to fix my fire alarm you're absolutely right just like stick your hand in like a big box of filter mouth that's pretty cool yeah so yeah we're doing great panda production here do we have a new case to show the scope ease for the great Panda greater collaboration Rick Perry as fast mm-hmm see what the information we can get from the blinds both sensors so this is a radar reflector we bought off Amazon we're using it to try to trigger the toyota software to return some some information I don't know yeah something with more information how do you mental health the tripod I just used a double-sided tape nice very janky yeah so that's the set up today you ever seen boxes of phones like this is 80/60 for new phones this is like each one of these is a phone grows have you ever fired somebody fired a few people you know you don't perform you get fired that's just how it is what else we got these are pause if you haven't seen pause you can use these to reflash your pangas here's Aeon production I got all these things coming off the 3d Center we got giraffes giraffes are in stock many giraffes in stock do we get the phone straight from Foxconn no no we buy them through oneplus Oh late shades you can stop less now and I'm not talking about those today we're not talking about those today do you still need pause you don't need a paw if using your panda but you do need a paw if you are trying to if you break it basically if you brick it to the point that it won't boot into the st2 get into to get into bootloader mode yeah so this is this used to be the headquarters of crypto scams LLC but yeah guys thanks for joining the periscope today just a little some day update about where we are what we are doing arrested we have a whole lot of cables as well does anyone want us bc2 any cables we have we have many many of them um but yeah thank you for thank you for for joining what's let's let's take one more look at a midnight black midnight lucky on over on my desk let's just take a look at it and admire it's midnight blackness I'm drinking Mountain Dew Code Red they should pay me they really should pay me when I show for their stuff um I bought this dead stereo camera so hardware is kind of nice I was a little bit disappointed with the software the semi global matching okay now we know the gray panda case no we don't sell the ealing case we only sell complete eons how many young sweatshop labor is already signed up the eon is it is a very nice minimum-wage job um assembly um a grape and a shipping date so I think we said four to twelve weeks and I think that will be uh will be true um do come employees work seven days a week I work seven days a week most people around here work six but sometimes people never sell people will people hustle hard man we gotta we gotta win look at look at look at the midnight black us twenty-five hours of day that's right I don't know I work constantly life is work you guys win um is it all Python yeah what soured well not neon Timothy couldn't take a present paid hourly is it all Python the neural networks no is this gonna be every weekend yeah we could try to do Sunday updates see kind of what we're up to oh we were drawing we were drawing bicycles on the board what do I consider a win um I mean winning right shipping the best system to the most people so I'm gonna spend my day so here I have over here this is this is a Toyota Prius ECU and [Music] unless I could talk about that and yeah I'm gonna try to hack it so we can update our rav4 to work in stop-and-go traffic and that would be my project for today I've put a bit of time and do it so far it's not that easy Toyota has better security than Honda but not because it's like good security like they didn't like like understand how you're kind of supposed to do this stuff they just made up better crap um so there's that but yeah thanks thank you thank you for joining uh and I will see you all I don't know maybe we'll do a midweek periscope me a little something cool to show off rest of the Toyotas okay that's the band question um can we not send crews pushed up by iana people live in the well you have people live in the office the band question is whether the car is gonna be supported the truth is guys open pilot is is open source so if you want your car to be supported you can write your own Oh Navigant oh now I'm not on Navigant Board of Navigant the people who think Ford is doing well on Tesla's lagging behind looking for Life team , that's right team , no you need like yeah team , we gotta like make that a thing you know it's better than Jake polish it's not as good as low gang but like what is it Jake Paul er well I assist ER laborers with ECU flashing no what can i we're gonna open source our ECU flashes if it's the engine control module not the steering modules alright because the worst thing the absolute worst thing that can happen if you bad reflash your engine thing is unintended acceleration and that's nowhere near as bad as like torque on the steering wheel unintended acceleration you can the brakes beat out the gas on any car and that's assuming things like neutral and the power button don't work which I'm not sure how how integrated these things are but ECM mods are also something that's much more accepted there's plenty of companies out there that are already doing like East you tunings where they remake where they change like the the tables which it's the same reflash we would do in order to remove the low-speed restrictions no I'm not mad at for because they have Sony in them I'm mad at Ford because of how they do their marketing and branding right I just read something Oh Bill Ford is smart cities may be closer than we think stop talking about that stuff like talk about what you're actually gonna ship in in a few years I'm talking about what's real don't don't give me PR hype I really don't like PR hype our active is lame apt it was okay bro I got a lift more bro I should get more Olympic after was okay I've met Glen Davos um he's better than most he's he's a lot better than most their demo was nice at CES this year Oh great pain the case is pretty incredible I'm more seamless than any kind of case ever designed before I think it's my best work but but Eddie it's not great it's easy Oh so guys we're low on gray filament so we're prototyping in white to preserve filament we have a lot of white filament we have too much white filament so we have to use some white film in prototypes it will be great don't you worry the LED shines through really nicely dude this square you still got that no no buddy whatever shape we want we're printing from this side oh we gonna put common Pamela Maggie whatever we want yeah it's a white print endless but look at that look at Billy's are endless but no no like she really show him how seamless it is it is literally can't see it well don't even show them where the see Michelle the other thing you try and find the Sun like pharmacy that's right it's pretty incredible and you know how we got to this case design very penthouse constraints to be in the red again this antenna zoomed out of the great fan of case we couldn't do the sliding that we used to do oh no this led to the newest innovation that come here you want to do a fun challenge on the board Oh Neil gave this to me and I was surprised kind of how bad I did so I raced a ping and then draw a bicycle erase this yeah no no that was the power truck but um draw basically yeah draw bicycle I I'm surprised how badly I did oh and then I tried to build stairs and I didn't even worse at that okay well how you make stairs okay okay the mainframe like another bar here and [Laughter] okay okay where's the seat that's not important those get stolen a lot of times that's right okay okay so I've never actually seen a bicycle that has a frame that looks like that oh no - one thing here might look weird - yeah there is something there are Eddie's doing the job bicycle what we're on the path we're on the periscope so if you don't want to be on that you're gonna be a little cars go it turns out that all bicycles are two triangles like you don't even see it until you like lock but like what that's a trying like that yeah triangle hey viv is not here so we have we have employees at common a I who you guys don't really know because they're secret yeah kind of similar to that I don't know it was pretty set on that board what I really missed was the fact that the seat bar goes all the way down to the pedals like and that's almost true on every bike yeah well I let other self-driving car companies use our self-driving hey guys it's open source Bros bicycle challenge thoughts on Chris Chris Latner laughs Tesla I don't know what he's working on right now I the guy from Omaha come through who can you tell who's using it I mean I don't care like that's the thing right you know this is I got I've got arguments on Twitter about this no I I did see that I did see that I think that's a great use of his talents um Chris Ladner wrote I wrote like the the first iteration is Swift did a lot of LLVM improvements all the nullify guy yeah we never ever interview with him I think I think Tuesday oh we got it we got an intern for the summer too excited about but here's the thing right you buy the hoodie for 250 guys hoodies are back hoodies are back at 129 what is your bag at 129 and actually we're gonna remove the lid from the site hoodies are gonna be hoodies are gonna be super rare we are gonna put up some t-shirts pretty soon yeah yeah cool um look I don't like use our stuff don't either stuff I don't care I mean like I like you guys using it if you want to contribute positively to the community I'm a fan if you want to like be a consumer go consume some other people's stuff pink hoodie yo I mean I gotta step up we gotta step up our merch game we got it we got to step up our merch game copy it's good from a purchase yet no no yes look what we got on the board it's everyday bro what's our next big feature milestone for open pilot so we're shipping we're shipping the gray pandas out and then we're gonna really focus on the localizer and once we have a good localizer we already have HD maps which I told you guys we're gonna open source by the end of the year we're gonna open source our HD maps and you are gonna be able to add in traffic lights and stop signs - I'm gonna have a million points localizers there be field tested right now no known as a million points I guess there's no free hoodies but better than open street view I mean we have video back none of them are really getting video instead of I was driving to build Maps yeah yeah follow your common point suppose could we scrape the data from ways know what I got to scrape any data from ways we don't have to we have everything we need to build a map the truth is like I don't care what the name of a street is right yeah we have we have we have stoplights we're working on stoplights how can we contribute to localize our data to script ASAP so we have a we have a very complex localizer we're building on the back end here it's almost better than you buy a yawn and a gray panda you're gonna get a better localizer than a plan X um do I think a map is necessary in the long term I think map is a good idea even if you have a car that can drive without a map and our car will be able to drive without a map you still want one because it's an added degree of safety right if you can if you can remove 9 out of 10 of your dis engagements by looking at the map and being like no cars ever done that before model you're probably wrong that's that's a good deal how many more pieces of hardware will you have to buy I mean it all depends on like to get to full self-driving more obviously nobody nobody believes that single front-facing camera can get you all the way to level 4 but all of the hard problems in self-driving cars can be solved with a single forward-facing camera detecting whether there's a car on the side of you is not a hard problem deciding how to read complex situations at distances of like 50 to 100 meters ahead and deciding what to do that's the hard problem or you're giving out free bitcoins you go to telecom something some bitcoins viola free bitcoins um any problem with video only got recorded one direction no no all videos good yeah coming I will we're into level 4 I mean you guys know it what everyone's working toward level 4 eventually the only question is whether you're gonna stay in stealth mode until you ship level 4 or you're gonna ship intermediate milestones and we've opted to ship intermediate model don't a lot of people are thinking look here's one way to look at it right here's a here's a difference between between like whammo and Cruz versus awesome Tesla every time way mo and Cruz want to add a car to their network it costs them money every time we want to add a car or test the ones to add a car they actually make money and we actually make money and that's the key I mean if you want you know how are you gonna grow a big Network if you're paying 150 thousand dollars per car I mean you can't you can do it but then you're taking on investment right you're you're you're okay fine if you have way mo money you're getting the money from Google like that's not a good thing it's not it's not sustainable um so that's kind of a key distinction there guys are keeping me on with the questions no yeah the phones are fine eons we'll be able to get HD maps it's the the localizer can even run on the server you don't need you in the rental you can run you can run an API which is something that we're probably gonna ship this year to that will send you down basically GPS Corrections right I take a picture I know where you are from the map I'm like or here are the lanes here are the signs okay let me send a correction back down you couldn't it's it's a simple algorithm it can totally run on the device and if you have a great panda you're gonna get all this stuff first but it might eventually come to people with white pandas too so what a localizer does is determines where you are really precisely why don't all makers buy my philosophy well you know here's the thing right you can't view auto makers like they're like a person that you could talk to reasonably ranked at the bottom of the recent report look at the guy behind the report and then realize that he literally did PR for Ford for ten years right like did he stop you know it turns out it turns out that that um people high up in the yard now we don't go there but um they tend to get Logan Valda slobs are I don't the guys you want sponsor me more devices yeah I mean look I'd love to get uh you want to eat on in the Yeti we can we make that happen a gray panda what is its benefits I mean look I'm not I'm not I don't market you guys like you see what it is I'll tell you what it is I'm not gonna tell you like buy it I mean I only shill if it's ironic it's not even though automakers want no risk it's that they are procedural companies right don't don't view them as people view them as like a system right imagine asking the question why like LS can't concatenate files why does it LS just just concatenate I mean that's just not what it does right you have to view it that's why view the world right a view the world is like like like systems like that alright we'll go to we'll go to it will go to 30 minutes I just want to know what it does it's it's we replaced a Wi-Fi module with a high-precision GPS chip and then we we localize well I'm is there a way for comma to be more productive not really um I mean yeah more employees yeah if you can find her right employees right the whole key is the right employees not more important I don't know if like jobs that like wow if I put 10 people on this instead of one it would get done faster wouldn't more money we'll have more money this year among employees cost productivity yeah they absolutely do I really think like half of Google is a negative a negative weight on Google if I if I showed up and I was a CEO Google I would I would fire half of them all the cars will need to communicate with each other no they won't why how do they communicate with each other now only my philosophy works I mean works for what there's there's other ways there's other successful companies in self-driving cars today you know you look at you look at like embark Vardhan labs right of approaching this from trucking the first place you guys are gonna see level 4 is on trucks and until you see it on trucks there's no way you're gonna see it in cities so building a building a trucking company is a good way to approach self-driving cars if you want to go b2b no we're not gonna do an IC o---- you know I've talked about the IC o---- we might uh we might be involved with crypto in some way shape or form but like just look at the telegram ICO for everything I hate about AI cos so it's not gonna be anything like that have we tested it on trucks who cares no no not Eddie Eddie's been here a while and it's been here a while mechanical fix on the ps4 the stupid steering know the way it's called linked backlash you just need to overcome it by like putting up to get a bit of a torque to jolt it and then it will start going it's a controls problem I need thoughts okay like who builds engine who build sky who builds uh who builds who builds cars engineers build cars right and no engineer would be like whoa we should make it drive equally well forwards and backwards right like that's just the thing on the surface that tells me there's really no way you can take Zook seriously because that base knows that's right you have like a design space for cars why would you design something that drives equally well forwards and backwards what it goes in one direction 99% of the time that makes no sense and it's clearly not an optimal point in design space why is Tesla still not visit what do you mean by visibly working my understanding is like who cares they buy the chips they ship them in the cars right visibly working oh let's announce partnerships and do it would PR do I think overriding the dangers of AI I don't know yeah I mean they're overhyped if it's the kind of thing where like I don't know you never want politicians thinking about your stuff it's not helpful when you are in like talks about that stuff but maybe it is like in Miriam's up getting more money and stuff because it is something really to think about just not like next year um of course Tesla is Nvidia in their car right but you don't need I mean what do you mean what is the PIO Domino's and Ford are partnering for self-driving car Pizza Delivery who cares why don't we use in video because it's a lot easier to ship Qualcomm we will I mean I'm not a postman video cz2 chef I'm talking about just easy to ship shipping is really important Tesla's making a chip is that necessary not at all no invidious chips are great there's absolutely no reason to make your own chip unless you want I mean look you can always do that as like a leveraging point like you think about Jeff Bezos and the meeting with ups where they negotiate prices every year Jeff's like I'm gonna start my own delivery service and UPS like not another era will be competitive will be competitive but just like okay you get a pass this year stop talking to me cycles you're at motorcycle for fun you don't ride a motorcycle this is a practical um I don't know all right cars are too big cool guys I said it'd be on for 30 minutes one more question what my thoughts about the Udacity soft drive a car course there's some good stuff in there there's some good stuff in there you know I don't care about credentialism you can get access to a lot of the materials for free Oh a Vienna's next weekend oh man I have you need to get the same time I see yes everyone used to be a good time he'll go this one's kind of fun I wouldn't like I like three years ago it's a good time if you know black married now what am i up to today I told you guys I'm hacking Toyota's I'm hacking Toyota's right and I'm playing with it's hard to aim a phone backwards and play with that stuff cool all right thanks for joining see you later thanks for coming I follow us on Twitter tell your friends did that smash that subscribe button welcome rage a yeah I can't wait for tax time by e on by e on every buddy always chill for your merch that's right go to shop comedy I you guys should should buy stuff always buy stuff always be shilling always be plugging and always do it for the views yo I love all you guys you're you're the commenting I scope is your what makes makes coming i great leave a like subscribe team called a hash tag team comma Y a alright peace