Live Office Hours for Entrepreneurs w/ Neville Medhora

Key Takeaways

hey Nev I don't know if I'll eat a burrito is it burrito no hell yeah dude what yeah where is it that's why I found it eventually yeah oh [ __ ] yeah you know it's burrito Friday what's up you sexy [ __ ] hey oh you two novel I can't hear you well I don't have you on so I can't hear you yet but I'm sure it's probably good uh when is this guy not eating a burrito so yeah we're doing this on the new channel how are you guys doing I'm gonna be a little bit more chill on these office hours I feel like hung out with my buddy Tynan and he was super chill and I was like yo man that sounds hella fun I feel like I stressed out a little bit too much and entertaining you sexy bastard so I will eat a little bit of the burrito we're about to head out how did you guys weak we're about to head out and once this is over so I only have an hour today uh because we're gonna be heading out from King City California over to Paso Robles that's Anton Anton was the original people at appsumo he's eating a burrito he's my biking partner we're riding tandem what's up YouTube oh oh we're gonna do some burrito porn Neville I know you don't eat until like 9pm oh do you guys want to uh it's like Mexicans are the number one Canon was really chill I'm gonna be way more chill I'm gonna talk about the biking thing we're gonna talk about biking oh this it's is it ham or bacon come on come on oh we've been learning Spanish ooh how are you guys weeks how are you guys a week tell me about your week what's up Skye good to see you dude I'm gonna answer your questions today we're gonna bring Neville on no maybe 10 minutes you're gonna talk about your product promote it but I'm gonna be a little more chill this week I'm gonna try that out tell me about your week and then we'll go into some questions um foreign Dude tell me about a week how was your guys week Dan I'm sorry to hear that man you're a good dude oh [ __ ] you're a good dude I hope uh what's one thing you can do for yourself today I would say honestly having a breakfast burrito in the morning probably like top 10 things you could do to have a great day seriously they don't talk about this in the real success books but dude Dan I hope uh do one thing to make you feel good honestly past two months from even a little bit tough and low uh but going biking Across America this is day three and I'll talk about some of the bike stuff I think will be cool questions um but getting out and moving dude has honestly been a big thing what's up Pete what's up tell me more about your guys weeks and I'll answer some questions thank God it's Friday thank Allah Buddha Jesus Neville's 8 000 Gods Neville how many gods you guys have I think every single one of them yo man I'm sorry you burnt your food yesterday oh Barcelona man you guys worked hard this week tell me more about your week so April worked really hard we're see this is my Primo hola amigo dude it's been a full week tell me more about your ass week uh I'm biking actually I'm leaving in an hour Suraj yes this is like my young if I was young and good looking and Indian and I was uh and is it I don't know if you're sick or not but that's what I would look like dude trauma chars in the house I love trauma char dude one his name sounds like a Pokemon character and two is just a good dude Aaron Shu yes I've been waiting for you I was really excited for this William McConnell every time I see William McConnell I think he's in the Navy yeah I'm gonna show you guys some of my bike gear but we're on day three and we have to go at around 11 to keep biking across America Kirsten you made it I'm so [ __ ] happy by the way my mom watches this so I have to be mindful of what I talked about tell me more about your weeks then released a cookbook hey was it Italian Kenneth Van Dyken you guys know van dykens or anything with Van in it I [ __ ] like you hiked a couple of thousand feet and you killed a turkey dude this guy [ __ ] I like that people like that are in the audience so that you can protect me um because I can I can when the aliens come or some [ __ ] I'll help sell but you're gonna be the one doing all the hard work uh and I'll be giving back massages and stuff data professor does anyone hear like Star Trek I hate every TV show movie that has the word star in it just not good you like Star Wars yeah yeah people that like Star Wars and green tea I'm worried about them either yes you joined the first underdogs call if you guys want to be a part of The Underdogs by the way this is a private slack group uh uh okay dork.com underdogs I am on a bicycle I'll show you guys the bike and stuff like that in just a second dude what's up with you guys weeks man I'm here to cheer your guys [ __ ] day up I'm God I like the officer I think I was putting a lot of pressure to be like super entertaining on these office hours which it still will be but I'm here to cheer you guys up I'm sorry you're in a weird Funk uh this bite Jason the [ __ ] salsa is not moving uh Jason this burrito bite is for you my friend all right dude by the way true story every night I've been taking a bath no shame in that bats are pretty [ __ ] cool I feel like bass are pretty underrated we're doing around 60 miles a day so far there's a lot of people here Jacob it's because it's on the new channel good to see you by the way I think I saw you on Tom Nash's show Morgan Williams good to see you dude bats are really amazing good to see you too Kristen candles I didn't have candles but I had a beer that was great man yeah all right dude Scott I'm glad you had a good week long Neville how was your week never you've never had a down week in your life good to see everyone who else is in Evan Minar dude yes you're excited to go do yard work I'd hire you for my house man I will say Evan I've been really enjoying uh driving ranges like going to the golf driving range super fun John Saunders oh [ __ ] man well that's not good I hope you're recovering well uh who else is here Ernest Lux life what up homie Sebastian good to see you uh any other highlights from the week yes [ __ ] yeah 6 p.m where are you in the world you're in like London or something um a lot of mountain biking this weekend celebrating office hours hell yeah I finished my coffee I order oh my God you want to hear I'm such a dick I went to get a latte and I asked for a skinny [ __ ] vanilla latte and she looked at me like and I was like yeah that just that wasn't funny as I thought it was gonna be had a great meeting with RJ youngly hell yeah all right Neville you want to come at the beginning of the show at the end of the show no all right I look five years younger yeah I actually like the way I look now like I shaved my beard off I normally try to do like a winter beard and I shaved my beard off and I was like dude you're not ugly anymore and I started I honestly it's true I felt a little bit better about myself I did I was like yo I would jerk off to you um I like it skinny [ __ ] latte I thought it was funny Barbara and I told her and then she looked at me I was like sorry she's like it was kind of funny oh Kristen you say that to all your favorite YouTubers oh you finally got an appsumo hell yeah all right so you got your product listed on appsumo do you have any advice for improving chances of making money yes that's what we're gonna do today Neville did you get is your product live all right let's do a quick vote Jacob what are you selling by the way do you guys like beards or not like beards I got a Jason Statham going Vibe on yeah I think Jason Statham has a Noah Kagan Vibe going on if we're real about it all right oh we have 69 people here all right time to bring on Neville all right Neville you ready all right we're gonna bring out Neville can we do 10 minutes oh beards get you booty look at that you're with a bearded guy I like women that like guys that are super hairy that's just like my new thing they're like oh I want a real real man rugged I'm like men with all the hair is disgusting like our friend Lloyd I'm like oh touching that would be nasty I could never be with a bear Anton did someone probably call you a bear yesterday you did I did I said I was I said I was this Cub oh Rick Johnson uh Rick Johnson email me and we'll get that sorted out Noah appsumo.com dude hell yeah Dan Manny I got you got your product ready I don't Jason I don't like beards and chicks either man also I don't know if we're even allowed to call them chicks anymore but I will say oh before I bring Neville on let me show you guys a sneak peek yesterday I did a um a video it's coming out in like a week or two oh my God oh my God I interviewed like all these women who were millionaires and I've asked them how they did it and I asked what advice they have for other women they were so much better than men I was like oh my God I was I have a bunch of sexist jokes against men but I won't share them here uh anywho I cannot wait for that video to come out uh millionaire women and how they did it what up Kevin Fox bayerberg good to see you eater all right we'll talk about bikes in just a second oh RJ got paid today from the Sumo Marketplace all right let's bring on Neville if you guys are ready to bring here Neville come on tell me like put in the comments that you want your favorite zoroastrian uh jokes aren't funny today oh it's gonna be an awesome video these women were so impressive Anton you finish your burrito yeah Primo you had a burrito what did they say well all right I'll bring on Neville Neville we got like 10 minutes he's live what upset what's going on man how's Cal God this is so Noah they're bald beard earrings flannel shirt burrito you're in some sleazy hotel for some reason what the hell is going on dude this hotel is definitely look guys background I don't know there's a lot of stuff that's very Noah here it's weird too we only have one twin bed in the room for me and Anton uh I could see he's like nine feet tall how does he even fit in that thing I know I can't even 69 him it's like I have to lick his belly button God I hate taking pictures with them because we look like children I didn't feel like his adopted son yesterday dude sleazy hotel we're eating burritos yeah I do eat a [ __ ] ton of burritos dude people love yukiyami William youngling what up I dude so many people I've been seeing on the internet for such a long time ah dude that's gross did you put on deodorant I I did I just didn't take a shower today so it was only like noon why would you shower oh true story of Jude 69 people here damn it 68 no one leave no one leave get one come join the show no everyone loves you dude oh thanks everyone appreciate it dude these people are so [ __ ] cool dude real talk that you know that we're gonna like post a product here and everything like that I finished it literally two minutes ago I mean like on the call I uploaded it no joke oh yeah we're supposed to do Zen Caster I think Neville hold on we have Zen Caster on uh I don't know what that is but I can share my screen if that's what you want no I think it's just recording it local for you by the way Neville I forgot I was gonna say oh here's a real question I want damn people are leaving I need seven more people to be here all right question for everyone and Neville how many times a day do you brush your teeth probably twice twice right Anton brushes his teeth once a day last night when he was in bed I brushed his teeth for him I was like dude you gotta brush twice he doesn't brush a knife I mean he's Russian we're lucky he brushes his teeth at all in Russia you gotta brush twice minimum minimum thank God my mom isn't live my mom watches these afterwards she's like before I go out I put some Listerine in my mouth and quickly brush just to get a little freshness going on how do you how do you do it like something along the lines of that you gotta brush it yeah all right yep all right so let's get your uh actually how are you man how's your week I'm good man it's been busy I've been moving into the new house designers starting all sorts of fun stuff you know when you buy a house isn't it crazy how much money you spend in like one year it's like your spending is always like this and then it goes like whoop like like to the sky it's kind of wild it feels kind of cool yeah yeah well you could be like oh I spent x amount of money this month and it sounds kind of wild what's more what's this thing that's expensive in your house that you weren't expecting to spend much money on I think everything man it's like the painting costs have you ever heard someone do a construction project or something and be like oh it came under budget and under time like no it just never happened so I was over budget and over time paintings expensive I think uh like the bedroom furniture is going to be crazy expensive couches are like a trillion dollars and they're all stuck in the sways Canal or something like that so they're taking forever kind of wild there's a a lot of people here just I like calling people out in terms of like feedback one someone used to get off the show okay perfect 69 everyone just stay where you're at um my mom's like Noah why'd you kept talking about this number 69 I don't I don't understand this number it's not modern uh so mostly people brush twice a day actually I do think this is not racist but it seems like a lot of people from foreign from non-american countries are once a day like Anton grew up in Russia yeah we're never located I'm in Austin dude yeah Furniture is expensive 69. all right some people do four things here all right so do you want to share oh yeah here let me get you a Zen Castle this will create your local recording I think here I'll text you you may share my screen uh yeah so you launched for everyone who wasn't here in the last few weeks this is a third installment of the Neville series uh Zen caster yeah so go in there it's actually the link you just like when you get links on your phone it just automatically goes to your Macs foreign times although for whatever reason it's not happening right now all right so guys we're gonna have Neville he listed a product on the absolute Marketplace I'll put it with the link if you guys have not done it yourselves like RJ youngling is making money be there guys are listed their products guys and girls and they've made money in it so we're gonna show Neville he got it listed so we'll just go through different ways of promoting it uh in the next like 10 minutes or so are you moving in this oh yeah all right so I'm going to start recording here on this side okay is that working yes sweet all right um do you want to share your screen to show the the product the listing yeah okay so let me share my screen right now to get a little bit of a back story I think I can let you share screen yeah here wait uh application window by the way just to give some backstory three weeks ago Neville had an idea for mental models which is an idea of like how to make decisions then last week he created it and this week he's going to promote on the appsumo marketplace um my mom actually Neville she messaged me about it and she's like I like that Neville just followed his heart and he really want to do mental models even though no one else wanted to buy it and so I'm so happy that he just did it yeah it was kind of do you remember so just a quick recap of the last show basically everyone hated the product right they're just like you should do something copywriting you should do something freelancer it'll make more money and I was like well this first one I don't want to do for money I just want to do it because it's fun and so the first one I did was mental models and it looked kind of like this so I changed it all around and to show you how fast we did it like I was doing part of it like right before the call last week and I did probably like 60 of the work uh right before this call and I woke up at eight in the morning and I finished it all in about three and a half hours so this is going to be the product these are all the different mental models all that kind of stuff um I submitted it to the appsumo marketplace right here oh this is cool all you need to do was upload a uh a picture a couple of images and the website copy and the product so I just uploaded a zip file how was that honestly like straight up the the process was easy except feedback um it really made everything have to have 16 by nine images like aspect ratio and I would like take a screenshot and it would be almost perfect and be like oh sorry it's not exactly the right ratio specifically do each image which was really annoying I wish I could just upload an image and had a sizer that I could just use because that was a real pain in the ass it took forever to do that but other than that super easy all right I'm just telling the team so by the way one of the things that I've been thinking about especially I read this book no rules rules uh by Reed Hastings and Netflix CEO so impressive hey that's me that's better me on me and me uh let's go to the listing so all right yeah so here's my product thing and then here's the listing so I haven't edited it this is the first pass of it right so we'll change it and all that kind of stuff so all right good one quick thing for all y'all is that I think what's super powerful from Neville just saying something earlier is that if you guys are doing products if you're doing service if you're doing consulting if you're doing software if you're working with other people go ask for some feedback today hey how could I work with you better so like we do that within our company and I think we've actually was pretty disappointing but also exciting uh a lot of the things that we need to improve on so I appreciate you sharing the photo thing anyways for everyone out there get some feedback today so you said the 16x9 was annoying yeah that part was super annoying it should just let me upload an image kind of like Twitter and then you could have a sizer that sizes it kind of like you know when you upload a picture to Facebook for your profile or something like that I think that would just be a lot easier and there's basic standard plugins the team can use for that wow that was like really the only Annoying part everything else was super crazy easy that's cool to see Jacob garof is like 17 years old he's like the Jewish cousin cousin I wish I had um I did finish my notes on the read Hastings book uh I'll post it in the you guys want to read it I will post it below yeah I will say though like this is so easy that I'm probably gonna upload a lot of products like that was the goal to upload probably like three to five different products I could just sell all the time one might sell really well some are just fun I don't know but it's just like a legit marketplace now dude it's crazy all right so by the way I posted the no rules rules book report I haven't finished editing it there's nothing really fancy in it but you guys can go there I posted a link in the comments to see it so how long did it take you actually get it listed uh if okay if the image thing wasn't a problem I'd say a grand total of probably like a minute and a half if anything oh damn I already had I already had the website copy written and all that kind of stuff so all I was doing was really just uploading like the cover how to use it and then like a couple of the random mental models um so that's it I mean that was the whole thing oh and then I uploaded a zip file with the product so it was like a three Meg zip file that's it photo of me why'd you put my photo on your thing what's the deal Harry oh my God it does look like you all right he's bald wearing flannel is a big loser yeah come on let me that's true all right anywho all right so you got it live can we turn it live yeah let's do it live all right how do you turn it on I don't know that's your thing or uh who is doing it Sean Sean Stubbs I thought you guys turned it on oh I don't know tell Sean to turn it on oh all right I will um pending review am I able to go in and edit it anytime yeah go try to do that preview listing I can only preview listing right now I guess it has to be live and then I could go edit it thank you um Noah Costanza oh did you get an email confirmation for it I can check I'm gonna call Sean let's call Sean live I thought he was gonna throw one for you oh damn seven are we gonna watch someone get fired live well I'm just kind of concerned uh uh I mean to be fair I just posted it literally while we're on the call like while I was in The Green Room in the back I'll text him I'll say can you make it I did all right everyone hold on so right now guys I'm on slack messaging some of the people that work at the company um but I guess it takes so it takes something around 24 hours or less to get it approved because what happens is otherwise people post like spamming as [ __ ] uh and then it's no important while you're doing that can I show them like some cool tricks that I use for Google Docs and making products that we've done in the past oh yeah so for example we made this entire thing like a lot of people think you need to make some fancy PDF and have like Adobe Acrobat whatever the hell like I don't even know how to use that thing you can actually use Google Docs to do all this stuff so uh we use Google presentations and I just made like a normal layout looking presentation and check this out so mental model cheat sheet number one right we made this cheat sheet let's say I want to sell a picture of this all I do is file download jpeg image and boom it saves as a JPEG image and now I have that saved so I can bring that up here bam it just already automatically makes the image no Photoshop no acrobat no nothing and then if I want to save the entire thing all you do is file download as PDF and then it'll take a second over there it's downloading in the corner and it'll save the whole damn thing for you so it'll make a PDF like you don't have to really do much you don't have to have a lot of technical knowledge for some of these products upload can you show what you actually uploaded to the optimal Marketplace and then what do you charge I put 10 bucks I think that's what I talked about last time okay and then what'd you actually upload so it was a zip file that contained the PDF so this PDF right here okay what's that it's just this no it's just this it's then it's then uh you also get where'd it go you also you also get a two cheat sheets that you can print out then you get a printable cheat sheet that is all one page and then you get an iPhone uh oh where's the iPhone thing and let me show it to you let me pull it up you get this iPhone wallpaper oh that's cool so this is size dude that's a great idea so kavi I like kavi me and him drink a lot of green tea together and then we do a bunch of ecstasy uh he said this is cute I actually Julio had a great idea you should sell a template on how to make products for the appsumo marketplace that's kind of a cool idea I mean absolutely I think that was one of the ideas we had last time like how to make a product for the appsumo marketplace yeah coffee says K gang what up dog uh music entrepreneur said this is a good idea yeah so I mean that's kind of the whole product and it's one of those things like I talk about over here it's like yeah I know a lot everyone needs this and probably you can find different mental models online for free but if someone wants to spend 10 bucks and get the ones I personally use they could just buy this and um honestly I actually kind of made this product for me like so thanks to Mama Sumo your mom for saying like I'm glad Neville followed his heart because I really wanted to make this product because I don't have a place where I've listed all these out that is easy to read so now that I have this document I'm just like oh sweet I can use this so hopefully someone else can use it too so a lot of people are saying clever idea one thing I want to highlight just because it sounded really cool happy birthday Rick Johnston hell yeah man um coffee's digging it so one thing I was curious though Neville is that you took I like that you have a lot of different things like hey I get an iPhone thing I get a PDF thing I get a cheat sheet thing I I want to hear a little more you're like holy [ __ ] I'm gonna list a lot more products like what were you what was your thinking there one I was just like oh that's [ __ ] interesting yeah last time we went through a bunch of products and got your feedback on it and everyone thought this was the stupidest product but it's so it's kind of funny like when they see it they're like oh that's actually not that bad but I think the other products we were going to do is something around the idea of copywriting because I think that would probably be make the most money uh something around freelancing and then I do like the idea of how to make an appsumo product that would be pretty dope because we did a whole um class of that where we got everyone to make digital products and it's the same concept so it could kind of repackage that except specifically for appsumo and honestly how to make money on appsumo as a product would probably make the most money on appsumo I mean we've done these products like how absolutely does marketing like a lot of this stuff we did a course on app symbol called course about how to build a course it did pretty well so Neville did you make your own images for the PDF Alex you guys if you have questions about making a digital product uh this is a great time to ask so he uh shout out Patrick Morgan um yep he's on the launch Ops Team for Marketplace I mean look how terrible these drawings are only I could do that that's uh everyone else is way better at images yeah so I did make almost all the images with the exception of that was not mine that's a Rage Comic that's obviously George Costanza but I did make all the rest of these and that is me all right so here's what we're going to do Neville we're going to answer a few more questions uh I'll uh Pat shout out Patrick Morgan uh and Sean on the launch Ops Team he's going to enable it's going to take 10 minutes so I'll bring you back on uh let's answer any questions people have um how did you change the slide layout you go to file page setup and change it to whatever you want so a normal standard sheet of paper is 8.5 by 11 inches so I change it like that bam done so could you sell an Excel template on the absolute Marketplace yes yep appsuma.com Neville you're like our spokesperson I love it I mean I have equity in this company I want you all to be rich and like make me Rich get back to work Noah um oh that's cool um that's a good idea so we actually uh I don't have the link right here but it comes with the cheat sheet you can print out on one page and it also comes out with two cheat sheets like this that you can put on your wall um what other questions could sharing the same slide have a lot of people crash would it better make a PDF but yeah you did give them a PDF you also give them the presentation or no yep I um I can I don't see why not I mean they can download oh so add a PowerPoint slide I see what you mean so so let me ask you because this is interesting because it'll be live in 10 minutes we can bring you back and I have a hard stop in 30 minutes because we have to start biking but I think that got a good question it's like you think a normal person with no following like could do a book package like this would make money uh yeah because we just done it with a couple people okay wait wait wait when you say no following if if you're like one of those people that's like um I don't have an email list I don't have anything on Facebook I don't have any followers on Facebook I don't use Instagram it's just like if you have no one then yeah you're at a disadvantage compared to someone with some audience but on the appsumo marketplace there's a couple of people within our group that post on the absolute Marketplace zero promotion and made sales so there's one guy that did the salary negotiation guide okay he's pointed zero people to it and the next day he had sales in appsumo was just like he was confused he was like wait how how did that even work uh another one is the best company best compensation calculator okay of all time he something like that something to that effect I forgot what the name is um Kyle also did that and got the same result where he made sales and up so without telling a single person so both of those guys did have audiences but they didn't tell anyone about their appsumo product and it just started selling so theoretically yes you could do this without an audience but if you have an audience you're in even better shape does that answer the question yes people are the answer is yes and I think the other thing Zach is one yes appsumo promotes it for you but secondly a lot of people have more people in their Network than they realize um do you retain the name and emails from the sales of your product I don't think so it's just like Amazon but I think there's ways that you could like push people to get their emails and contact information but there's right as of now not right now um can you release a product Neville I'll ask you the questions he's making a a thing about podcasting and video casting he wants to release it for free can he put that on an appsumo I'm writing podcast videocast focused CMS I went to release for free yeah of course you can right um if is this piece of software because you could also release I know whenever you sign up for appsumo it's like is this software or is it a software a course or is it like files so I selected files so bayberg for you it sounds like you have a uh a CMS so it'd be like a piece of software you can sell totally which type of products tend to sell best on appsumo oh good question that's a question for you I know I know the answers uh to this stuff all of them uh 80 of the sales on Marketplace I'm gonna share screen level I'm gonna share my screen so these are sales daily this is live data uh from our Marketplace products so today so far this is crazy uh we're paying out almost fifty thousand dollars to creators that's the cogs column that's the cost of goods sold so today people are getting I don't know how many of them how many people look I don't have any actual individual products well we're paid out almost 50 000 bucks That's crazy dude I don't know it's just kind of amazing I can't believe we've gotten this big and like how far we're gonna go uh so I think there's a I think this is like a great time for people to get in uh so in terms of products that sell best 80 of this the revenue still comes from software uh and then it's I don't know the exact split between courses and books so yes appsumo customers still like software the most but definitely I think there's going to be a lot of upside uh still with books and courses and definitely Target towards entrepreneurs I think when people put like you know Neville's weight loss course which is I'm still glad we tried it yeah I've actually been reading more and more books about how many times people need to be failing like I was reading about Netflix I was reading about Amazon it was like these companies still are pushing a lot of experiments to fail like they actually want more like failure in the business there's someone having like oh how do we do that within our own company yeah I mean if you I think if you type in like a Google failed products um Google uh Amazon failed products you find like all these lists of just like tons and tons tons of things that were failures uh hello uh Beavis yeah what's up yeah I'm just it's uh it's actually I have I got it my brother got the screen it's pretty neat it's a GPS tracker slash uh texting device so if I ever get lost in the middle of anywhere um you could find me and then I could text people oh nice yeah so there's no cell phone reception all right so now I'm gonna take you offline for a little bit answer there or you could just stay on who cares um all right guys I'm gone right what's that I'm done here right yeah well let's oh [ __ ] sorry I'm gonna get your questions on let's wait a little bit for um the product to go live and then I'll bring it back cool see you guys I'll see you bye all right what is up you sexy bastards I've got 23 minutes the product is getting live in just a little bit uh Patrick's gonna confirm uh all right so what questions how are you guys can you sell subscription products yes we don't have mrr subscription in the absolute Marketplace yet uh but it's on a roadmap for this year uh I'd like to answer questions or talk to you guys about thoughts that I've had on oh let's any other questions about the appsumal marketplace metal stick around once the product's live um we'll bring it back and we can do a little promotion around it and I have a hard stop in 20 minutes all right uh uh so subscription products not yet but I think you could launch like free apps uh Neville it's on okdork.com Raw I can see your screen it's pretty cool um how long before Amazon buys us that would probably be the only company I would consider selling to rub products do I want to see on appsumo I want more products like books that I read so from authors that I'm interested in um I don't use as much software but like Zen Caster stream yard some of the tools that I use uh I'd be excited about or like yeah I think that I'm trying to think what other oh wow look at Anton he's got a Sumo Jersey yo flex your signal Jersey merch drop sign up to our email list to find out the drop uh what's the best performing non-software product let me look all right uh I'm looking right now I don't I can't show their revenue damn most of them are software what is this one I'm looking up uh the different ones I mean the majority of the revenue is coming from software it doesn't mean I think there's not a lot of upside for books and courses what's the biking been like oh am I planning on visiting Miami no not right now Sumo Jersey is hella sick dude oh check out antop can I show them look at this all right let's talk about the biking thing because we're biking America is this no longer on YouTube finally fried yes this is on YouTube okdork.com what up Darnell uh we are biking America so we're about to head out from King City California down to Paso Robles the cool thing Neville is that like once you get your product on the app Sumo Marketplace you can go bike anywhere you want the world and it should hopefully make some sales uh am I sore from bike lane what up yes not a source I kind of expected here's my bike actually I'll give you guys a quick tour of the bike it's pretty damn cool you don't no you're not the owner uh biking's pretty so this is my Trek AKA Pizza AKA Redbird this is like uh all my so candy bigger candies a lot of bite my tools are in here condoms obviously when I see Neville bike lock it's like a thin bike lock because you know weight matters a lot chain lube Dieter I know you're getting really excited seeing this chain lube so that's on there by computer flashlight bike pump oh I need to use the bike pump today you need to pump your tires snacks pistachios basically high calorie almonds GoPro so anything snack wise or kind of filming and then this is all of my uh clothing so that's the bike stuff for today sandals for afterwards but yeah basically like extra shirt underwear pants uh and then in here uh laptop so that's how I'm able to do this so I'm carrying the laptop and then water bottles heart rate monitor that's pretty much it phone and then this is actually a really cool charger sorry I'm trying to show it to you so this charger you can plug in on top plus it's got like four Outlets which makes it really convenient to charge everything once you get to the hotels bike anywhere make money yes Neville hell yes dude oh Neville's product is live all right Neville I'll bring you back in a second uh and we'll go over it so what's the route I'm going let me actually show you guys I made this today so here's the link it's supposed to be for my family but you guys are family so I'll show it to share it to you so okay dork.com where's Noah um so you can see we're in see today and we're going to go down to D so we have to bike about 60 miles uphill what's the deepest thought damn Nicole you got good questions I've had so many [ __ ] Nicole check this out um so Nicole like every day oh Neville's back on screen I don't know what's happening uh every day I'm having all these different ideas so like yesterday's uh always ask locals for recommendations so like yesterday we came to the hotel we're like yo where should we go eat tacos that was awesome uh one thing that's been interesting is like do something bigger than yourself I can't tell you how many people have like reached out be like oh my God that sounds so amazing and um it's definitely harder than I'm it's way harder than I expected much harder uh but I think there's something there about just doing something so big um other fun things waving is always fun honestly because I like Anton he doesn't actually listen to any music uh he doesn't talk to me doesn't do podcasts or audiobooks um so you have a lot of time for thinking so I don't know I have [ __ ] I was thinking about making YouTube shorts or Instagram reels um I don't know if you guys would like stuff like that you can actually I don't know if you guys would let me know I could post more of those uh online I think a few other things I'm going to share a few more if you guys like them I wrote them I was excited to share them with people I said remember to smile you're like biking and you're like like today we're gonna bike it's gonna suck a lot of it and I'm like and I was like just remember to smile during the day until dude check the smile look at that he's brushing twice a day look at that dude you're glowing dude turn off the light bike shorts um say hi to more people and wave to people it's fun oh this was a good one stop worrying about the nickels and start doing the big dollars uh like appsumo makes a lot of money but I'm like super excited about making a thousand dollars on some of this like stupid crypto [ __ ] and it's just like it's fun and that's okay but not bud and should just be focused on look on the big things stop worrying about nickels oh I still like this one I keep writing it waves are free we have more of them out I never [Music] oh this is a good one voice dictation is highly underutilized written with voice dictation so like voice memos or voice notes I think highly underutilized oh this is a good one tools matter if you have the best bike but the worst road is going to be tough and then the second this is related to computers it was like know how to use your tools so if you have an amazing bike but you're not sure how to actually use it well it won't be effective I was just thinking about how everyone has like computers and like phones and all this [ __ ] but they actually don't know how to use them very well um we don't have any support car we're just staying at different hotels do you guys like these thoughts is this interesting you could say no yes I have more of them you guys want me to put um and I kind of come up with like a framework of the day so like here's the framework of the day yeah framework of the day is like try to post a story of the ride on Instagram for tying in post one Instagram photo my favorite picture do One giveaway on Twitter post my Strava and then update that Google Map I think what oh she brought we're gonna have it tonight or what are we having it yeah I don't know [ __ ] yes dude I don't know I think it was just helpful to create some framework around like okay not I don't spend my whole day [ __ ] tweeting and doing all the [ __ ] but like what are some of the key things I want to spend think about during the day Neville they want you they want me to get off they're like shut the [ __ ] up yeah I'll bring you back on uh uh voice memos are helpful do the Mexican wave I would also say like there's so many amazing people out there like last night we got to this hotel and uh this lady was like I was like hey is there Uber she's like there's not Uber here but I'll drive you and I don't know just like the power of generosity uh you guys a cool list over here yeah dude you mentioned sales I mean [ __ ] check this out Dieter and Brian bought it I believe all right sharing a few thoughts all right I guess Scott that's not a bad idea I'll put that in my note to maybe do that on uh maybe Instagram or some [ __ ] post thoughts of the day to ig Twitter upgrade your Twitter game with your thoughts I think your Twitter game would be really good if you paid attention to it bro can I just show you because honestly I've been paying more attention to it lately check this out where the hell is that I've been doing like honestly I've been having more fun with it but it's just not what I spent a lot of time thinking about um profile what oh the picture it's funny yeah it's pretty funny I don't know like look at this tweet Neville uh uh right here seven thousand likes because you're giving away Bitcoin I saw that well it's just a way to hack Twitter you just give away Bitcoin and Everyone likes it well I think it also depends what kind of people then end up following and what people end up following you I think the point though is that like my goal is not to optimize and grow my Twitter so that's why I'm not like doubling down and spending time on it uh I also if people are interested where's my what's my Strava if you guys want to see my actual rides check this out um this is my ride what what is my username my proof anyways I think it's like strava.com Noah Kagan and you guys can see if you guys want to follow along with the ride um you know how Joe Rogan is powerful JRE what if you are a powerful j e w ow that's hella good oh yeah here's my here's my your vanity URL foreign all right uh so that's my vanity URL if you guys want more of that um all right I'll post some of this stuff isn't that what Twitter's for stories are rules would be easy what is novel selling all right giving over talking take through that leads to my house Jesus Kristen Kristen that was a thirst trap now do you know what their strap is I just learned that what kids are talking about Snapchatting doing all that [ __ ] Hank oh do you want another thought of the day Neville what sometimes you don't realize how good you have it like yesterday we were riding this way and it was like man it's you know it's fine and then we went we turned and the wind was against us and I was like holy [ __ ] I didn't realize how good we actually had it with the wind I think that's true with life you know like like oh [ __ ] maybe I have it a lot better than I realize oh yeah there's tons deep deep novel thought tons of things one of the mental models actually yeah I know uh page 45 oh yeah I never [ __ ] invented Twitter by the way everyone um no but I think one thing I think one I think one of the biggest things about this ride so far is that like I don't think I've given myself time to think you know you just like kind of go busy like talk to people do [ __ ] like being on the bike for four hours five hours each day and not talking uh I don't know you're a lot of time to like just think about stuff it's kind of helpful yeah we could all do with you not talking as much do people just think we're mean to each other all the time no I think it's funny um yeah get deep with Noah all right yeah dude yesterday I thought I saw a guy wearing a dreidel necklace and I was like I need one of those um all right so Neville's product is alive this is pretty cool it's already made three sales thanks to people on this call look I'm on a little partner dashboard here's the link to it let's walk through because I've got 10 minutes maybe in five minutes how are you gonna promote it besides obviously you guys don't have to buy it here by the way do not buy it um I cannot believe you've made sales yeah three I've made 21 in payout dude I gotta you pay me a Bitcoin all right so oh is that you're on screen hold on let me share my screen on this all right so there's nothing I already know what I'm gonna do to uh actually you shared how are you going to promote it yeah here put my screen on if you want yeah yeah so show us a few of the things that you're going to do to promote just so that people can get some ideas foreign oh probably tell social about it all right like how just can we see like what stuff I think the more that you show that the more helpful it is like put a list of the things specifically because then I think people like oh yeah who you are right now let's do one right now and then you guys how would you promote your product so like I think one that's a stupid ass one that Neville you you could do really easily without a lot of work is update your email signature oh I've seen some people do that just be like hey I just launched this that's kind of interesting so just go to like your Gmail and and put that there just do that that one's like stupid easy plus you email all day long the funny part is you're gonna email like your uh like ATT I see and they're like oh yeah I'll buy your course setting see all settings signature organized swipe file foreign way too much [ __ ] in there dude there's like way too many things to distract me like you don't need you want you want them to do your updates or your swipe file or this other thing plus your phone number Jesus dude uh well let's just put one for now yeah oh I like that oh God now you're talking dirty all right so here are the things you guys you tell me other ideas of how you promote your products so email signatures people are liking uh Twitter email list a video where you come on a YouTube channel with Noah what about what if I go on Twitter and talk about it right now oh that's actually not a bad idea yeah you could talk about on Twitter why don't you do that one thing Neville that I like here is that you can update your links in your social for a bit ooh that's a good one yeah because I think the thing I'm trying to encourage and think about is like where can you update where you don't have to keep managing it like cup keep updating Twitter is a little bit annoying I wouldn't change all your links novel like you probably want one of them whatever one you think is more important for now but I think the point is like if you update your bio stuff or your Twitter signature set or email signature you don't have to ever really do those again wait I'm gonna go I'll have to make a shorter link because I actually can't I don't have enough space to put this here so I'll make like nevblog.com a or something like that oh we should probably help you do that oh yeah appsumo short link yeah too long for my Twitter then I'll do a couple things like this where a quick job of this I like how we're doing it on the spot it's kind of neat a lot of office hours put that in there edit that image to look nice yeah see this kind of image editor is what I meant for like the uh the 16x9 thing so this automatically puts 16x9 they're fixing it yeah a YouTube video of YouTube videos good he's not using Sleek bio for his bio link oh yeah maybe you can have like a quick bio or update your Instagram bio too you don't have to use like bio if you don't want um I just posted for the first time on Instagram in like a long time oh is there a thumbs up I changed my I changed my name it used to be like Instagram copywriting course but I changed it to Neville under dash Medora uh how do I do this I felt so old I was like how do you post on Instagram I know I was like can I not do it from the web I can't do it because normally just goes from buffer like yeah I posted a picture for my brother's engagement edit profile let's see submit obviously you're probably including one of your future emails oh yeah good one email about it show some slides what you get office hours packaged easy to use format um okay so then let me maybe take some pictures of oh I like that um [Music] change profile Banner it's kind of never a clever idea Neville what's your Twitter link twitter.com nevmed nevmed the ground mental models that's a link on the twit world man you know what's funny like during the pandemic everyone was like all about Twitter and now that everyone's like out and about again like you just like see a dramatic like not people posting anymore 100 much not as much you don't take a picture of that and I will publish that so I've done some lazy promotion so far and then I'll make an email about it and I'll post the link to this if anyone wants to see it oh this is kind of interesting so you're saying I say uh William has been saying Instagram story ads have been working a while he has 30 to 40 strong potential customers for 20 bucks it's so weird Neville uh I don't Adam I think it is it's like same people are out and about again any surprised it's so funny I think just just like all over the world half the people are still stuck in and I don't know if it's half but other people are uh not actually able to leave yeah thank God we live in Texas ugh all right so can you narrate what you're doing Casey's asking yeah so okay so right now I just posted on Twitter I posted this here I'll here's my Twitter post I made we'll let that circulate see what happens let's check the partner dashboard 28 whoa four sales dude you're buying lunch tomorrow when I see you in two months you're buying lunch yep and then I have a to-do list over here for the next things I need to do so I promise people there would be a video file and a pod and a audio recording of it and then um someone in here mentioned Matthew I think said a one-pager where they can print it out and I did