The future of intelligence | Demis Hassabis (Co-founder and CEO of DeepMind)

In our final episode of the season, Professor Hannah Fry sits down with Google DeepMind Co-founder and CEO Demis Hassabis for their annual check-in. Together, they look beyond the product launches to the scientific and technological questions that will define the next decade. Demis shares his vision for the path to AGI - from solving "root node" problems in fusion energy and material science to the rise of world models and simulations. They also explore what's beyond the frontier and the importance of balancing scientific rigor amid the competitive dynamics of AI advancement. Thanks for joining us this year! 🔔 Subscribe to stay updated on our return in 2026, and revisit our episode library to catch up on everything from driverless cars to drug discovery: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqYmG7hTraZBiUr6_Qf8YTS2Oqy3OGZEj Timecodes 01:42 2025 progress 05:14 Jagged intelligence 07:32 Mathematical version of AlphaGo? 09:30 Science vs commercialization 12:42 Scaling 17:43 Genie and simulation 25:47 Evolution in simulation 28:26 AI bubble 31:56 Building ethical AI 34:31 AGI 44:44 Turing machines 49:06 How it feels to lead ___ Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry Series Producer: Dan Hardoon Editor: Rami Tzabar Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif Music composition: Eleni Shaw Audio engineer: Richard Courtice Studio Manager: Nicholas Duke Video Director: Bernardo Resende Video Editor: Anthony Le Audio Engineer: Perry Rogantin Production Coordination: Zoey Roberts Visual Identity and Design: Rob Ashley Commissioned by Google DeepMind __ Subscribe to our channel https://www.youtube.com/@googledeepmind Find us on X https://twitter.com/GoogleDeepMind Follow us on Instagram https://instagram.com/googledeepmind Add us on Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/company/deepmind/