Ask HN: Aren't Ember and Angular a "wrong" kind of framework, similar to J2EE?

I'm looking at the new wave of Javascript frameworks (Backbone, Ember, Angular) and can't shake the feeling they are much more similar in style to J2EE than to more saner Rails or Django. They take you out of control of your code - they call you and you must fit their world view. They are "everything" and "nothing" at the same time - they offer you "everything" to build a web app, but at the same time it's hard to say what concrete functionality they really offer. There is little "meat" inside their code: it's just an abstract model that you MUST work with. Compare it to Django where in view functions you can do whatever you want - you are in control of what's happening, and functionalities you need are available as "library style" calls. Can't Javascript frameworks work like that? I'm asking the question because these frameworks receive much praise nowadays with little to no critique, so maybe my all-